Tuesday, January 27, 2009
***A MYSTERIOUS DISAPPEARANCE...***
...A funny situation happened today...an HYIP completely disappeared from one of its monitoring sites...now any other time this may not be such a big deal...but this instance was a bit strange. As you all know I monitor the top 10 HYIP's on HYIP.com, I think their list is the most comprehensive and typically informs me as to whats considered "hot" all across the board and as I've said earlier, I only analyze the HYIP's that matter...but there has been a strange occurence on HYIP.com and it seems really fishy. A short time ago FXOIC Traderboard was in the top 10 on HYIP.com and I added it to the DEATHWATCH LIST...but strangely enough, a couple of days later it was ranked 38th...and then 40th. I wrote in the forum linked to FXOIC Traderboard a message directed to Alex S. as to why it just seemingly fell so many spots...all of a sudden, with absolutely no explanation. There was no response at all...so then I go back to check the discussion to see if there was a reply...and it had VANISHED its as if it was never on HYIP.com AT ALL. And the funny thing is that a member of DEATHWATCH had made the comment that he felt like many monitors were just paid posters...I mean we can't be for certain...but this should be explained. If Alex S. wants to maintain her/his sites credibility this dissapearance should be explained. I'm not making assumptions or accusing HYIP.com of wrongdoing...I just want answers.
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We ALL want answers my friend. The point is: Will we ever have a trustful one?
ReplyDeleteAs you state, me neither want to accuse anyboby. But the fact is that not only hyip.com but apparently all the so called "top monitors" have been keeping on their paying list some programs that weren't paying to investors, for 4, 5 and even 7 days. That's a reality easy to check. Usually they change the status when the "noise" made by investors begins to get to loud. Whether we want it or not (I know there are a lot more thinking this way) we are becoming more and more skeptical in relation to "monitors".
I think that you could bring to us all some ideas how we can defend ourselves better from what is begining to be a crescent investor's new (and I'm measuring the words)plague
As you know I'm your follower from the first moment. I trust you and think that you really want to make the hyip world (a litlle) better. But in my humble opinion, as we say in my Country "it´s time to begin calling the oxes for theyr names.
Keep on going my friend. I'm with you
A hug
Hi again,
ReplyDeleteAs today I have some spare time I'm taking the liberty to bother you more than usual and profiting of your good will I'll ask you a question on a subject that for me is one of the greater mysteries I see at monitors.
Even if I consider myself to be reasonably good (modesty apart)dealing with numbers, when it comes to "profits declarations" made by, I would say, all monitors, I face situations that are (at least for me) very hard to accept as true. I'll give you the example that follows. The figures and dates are here so anybody can do the same brainstorming I did.
This information is related to youmilex.
Deposited: 170$ Withdrawn: 1569.3$
Total return: 923.1% Payment processors: LR, PM, AP, STP, SP
Minimum spend: 5$ Monitored since: 01/11/08
The point is this: Even if we admit that he's been paid from 01/11/08 till today (and we know this isn't true, but let's keep it this way) that would mean 9 cycles of 10 days each. Even if he kept the money there compounding 125% for each cycle (what isn't corresponding to: "Withdrawn:) he'll "have" there today, $1,266.60.
Where are the other 300 bucks? As I said I took this statement only as an example, because there are a lot more like this at all monitors, that for me, as I said before, remain a complete mystery. I appreciate if you can bring some light. Thanks
fundamental,
ReplyDeleteAs far as us having a trusting monitor?, I think we would have to define the meaning of trust when it comes to this arena. I mean monitors make a lot of money off of members, with the referrals and advertising and whatever other sources of income they employ. At the end of the day, the only people who are NOT MAKING MONEY SEEMS TO BE THE MEMBERS. and this absolutely has to stop.
I never could understand for the life of me why monitors would insist on leaving non-paying programs on their sites with a paying ststus...must be the referrals. Not only that but they STILL allow them to advertise after they've obtained a scam rating.
Yes you were a member of DEATHWATCH from the first moment and I could never thank you enough for everything you do for us. Your trust and dedication means alot. You're a big part of DEATHWATCH and I want you to stay with us through the fight. Many thanks for participating friend.
fundamental,
ReplyDeleteTo elaborate on your second comment,
You're never bothering me friend, post as much as you like, you're welcomed here. The information that you provide is extremely useful. Keep bringing us the news we need.
You know what fundamental, I've always been skeptical of those numbers also, it doesn't make much sense at times. It would be nice if they went the extra mile and had a documented ledger with all transactions for each HYIP and that way we could calculate the ROI for ourselves to corroborate the percentages. It would be useful, but sometimes these monitors can be stingy with their information but at least this way they couldn't lie about it.
fundmental,
ReplyDeleteYour math is right - the monitor could never have had such returns if it were only from the HYIP's investment program.
Most probably the monitor calculates all payments from the HYIP to be investment return, but they also include referral commissions from us investors.
In a sense the monitor is telling the truth - the figure he shows is his true profit.
...maybe so...but if that's the case its an egregious error on behalf of the monitor and is truly inaccurate, but its my understanding that monitors calculate this statistic differently. So at the end of the day...you have to be the one to decide which information is valid.
ReplyDelete...for the record. Alex S.(the administrator of HYIP.com) has been invited to the DEATHWATCH blog to explain this situation...lets stay tuned and see what happens.
ReplyDeleteThe link below has been provided for verification purposes
http://www.hyip.com/profile/blog_post?post=4376
hummmmmm! I don't know why but I have this feeling inside that tells me that he won't be here.
ReplyDeleteTaking this opportunity I have to mention SIX programs that have paying status at hyip.com and that aren't paying at all or at least, they pay (very) selectively. I can prove it personally: InvMon, Vast-Comm EliteFG and Brain Man.
If anyone doesn' believe please go to TG forums or MNO or MMG. Here comes the list:
InvestMonopoly
Vast-Commerce
Mountain Mining
EliteFundGroup
Brain Management
Olympex Group IBC
SHAME ON YOU
DW as yiu can imagine my last bubble wasn't for you at all. It has an "owner"... See you later my Friend
ReplyDelete...definitely. Alex S. has been invited...if he/she decides to show up...thats a different situation altogether.
ReplyDelete...we'll have to wait and see.
oh no harm done my friend, I knew who it was directed to, thanks for taking the time to post here and make sure you get over that cold!! We need you to be 100% to help us out.
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