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Wednesday, February 4, 2009

WHO'S BEHIND YOUR HYIP???

...Did you ever stop to wonder?...who's really running your HYIP?...who's pulling the strings?. I mean the names sound so common and unimposing...do they not? The scammers often use names that we're the most familiar with. My belief is as with everything else, they do this in order to make you feel comfortable and to make you feel like your money is safe. Addresses that lead to empty offices...phone numbers that lead to voice mails or sometimes nothing at all...track records that are impossible to validate...promises that are impossible to keep...returns that in most cases make no sense logically...but yet there are some who will defend the scam to the bitter end...even when they're not being paid anymore. I guess its a last ditch attempt to salvage some type of reasoning as to why this has all happened...that's why it pays to be out BEFORE the house falls. Nothing lasts forever, I don't care how many bells and whistles it has. I was reading on a forum and was saddened to see a member hyping up a virtually unknown HYIP making the comment "I'm going to invest with this one and I hope you all join me because the design is nice"...Investors should have better reasons for joining the HYIP's that they do...but the question remains...will we ever know who's on the other side of the screen?...

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AnonymousFebruary 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM
No, we won't. I think that's why we have to look at HYIPs as gambling. All the research in the world cannot tell you whether a program is a scam or not, unless it is so poorly designed as to be obvious (i.e., 1000% returns, etc).

Most of us have our own criteria for joining an HYIP - or better yet, for NOT joining one. At least for me, finding out who's behind it is a fool's errand. I look more at the age of the program, the returns promised, and negative comments with some apparent validity.
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DEATHWATCHFebruary 4, 2009 at 6:47 PM
...I think a more correct statement would be that "No YOU won't" and that YOU may look at HYIP's as gambling but obviously this is not the norm, that's why so many investors are devastated when some HYIP's end. And that's a gross misstatement on your behalf in regards to what "All the research in the world" can do??... If there was no research where would we be?
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AnonymousFebruary 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM
I don't really want to get into an argument on your blog, that was not my intention. And I am not saying one shouldn't do research/due diligence on programs.

Investors need to be educated that this IS gambling, otherwise they will be devastated, as you said. A valid company would be transparent enough to confirm who is behind it. Granted, there are probably a FEW HYIPs that are transparent enough to confirm this info. But the great majority are impossible to confirm, as you yourself said. Therefore, an investment in these "un-confirmable" programs is tantamount to gambling. You are taking a "chance" that the admin is not a thief.

I think the fact that investors are devastated when a program disappears only speaks to the fact that too many think of these programs as real investments, when they haven't even been able to confirm the address of the company, let alone the admin! Take Stoic, for example. There's a program that I'm making money with (in profit), much as I might make money at a poker table. But as Kenny Rogers said, you have to know when to fold 'em - and I won't be gambling there anymore.

I admire what you are doing. I didn't understand it at first, but I think the research you are doing, once a program has been running, to tell when a program is going to fail is VERY DIFFERENT from the research I was talking about, done at the very beginning of the program's life, to determine which programs will fail. It was the latter type I was calling useless.
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DEATHWATCHFebruary 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM
...now this makes more sense to me...but let me say that a "gamble" is truly in the eye of the beholder, when a basketball player goes up for a shot...its a gamble as to whether he will make it or not...but he still has to shoot...and if one is in the NBA and the other has never played basketball...its still a gamble either way...but of course I would put my money on the NBA player.

...everything in life can be considered a gamble in some form...so that's an extremely vague description. When one buys real estate...its a gamble, because the market may crash...you get the point...

And as far as transparency...who said I needed it? Whats supposed to provide me transparency?, documents issued by a company? Anybody can doctor documents...so that means nothing.

Make no mistake, I admire and respect your points of view and I appreciate you coming by. Dialogue is welcome friend.

Stop by anytime.
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DEATHWATCHFebruary 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
TH,

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're here and I want you to keep voicing your opinion. I think you have a lot to contribute.
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Once an HYIP is added to the DEATHWATCH list and it expires it is considered a KILL. I will be instituting a KILL AVERAGE(This average will determine the normal time frame in which an HYIP expires after being added to the DEATHWATCH list)...
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1. NO RISK INVESTMENT - 17 Days
2. YOUMILEX - 32 Days
3. BHV FUND - 19 Days
4. OLYMPEX GROUP IBC - 38 Days
5. GLOBOX TRADE - 15 Days
6. URINVEST - 54 Days
7. INTENSIFY FUNDS LTD - 22 Days
8. RESIDUAL FOREX INCOME- 33 Days

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Let me start by saying THANK YOU to all those who have joined DEATHWATCH and support its cause. DEATHWATCH is not about ME, its about the MEMBERS AND WHATS BEST FOR THEM. They come FIRST and I'm willing to do whatever it takes to protect them and make sure that they make the most of this uncertain investment opportunity that we call HYIP.

It is my understanding that there are numerous anonymous members and I think its GREAT that they are members PERIOD, but I must urge all the anonymous members to switch to PUBLIC members and I ask the same of those who are considering joining...why?...because I think the more of us...the better, there is strength in numbers and I can't make it any simpler than that. A large group of public members is A SHOW OF FORCE and its lets these scamming admins know THAT THE MEMBERS OF DEATHWATCH MEAN BUSINESS. DEATHWATCH is young...but its STRONG and I'm simply amazed at the showing of support I've seen thus far.

If there is anything I can do to make DEATHWATCH better I want to hear from the members, you have a voice here...this is not MY BLOG...IT'S OURS. So don't hesitate to let me know what I can do to make it BETTER.

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FAQ's

1. Why did you stop investing in HYIPs?

--I stopped investing in HYIP's a few months before I started DEATHWATCH, I have been successful over the years, but I am perfect by no means. I have lost money also, but my success outweighed my losses by a great margin. Also if I did invest in HYIP's it would be a conflict of interests. It would be highly unethical for me to be endorsing HYIP's for my own personal gain.

2. If you are not in them any more, why do you continue to monitor them?

--I continue to monitor them because I feel like its what the members need. There is nothing like DEATHWATCH in the HYIP market currently and no one has copied us as of yet and if they did it would be obvious. Also I felt like I could provide a valuable tool for those who needed it and who choose to use it. Obviously everybody doesn't see it that way and I can respect that, Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

3. If you are not in HYIPs, are you investing in something else that you find more profitable that you could share with us?

--Even though I no longer invest in HYIP's, I do have some longer term investments, such as stocks(which I traded for a long while), bonds and some real estate. HYIP can be and is profitable if done right, make no mistake about it.

4. Are you earning anything from doing this?

--I didn't found DEATHWATCH based on the premise of financial gain, I'm already pretty successful as it is, not necessarily monetarily, but in life in general. I don't even have adsense on the blog so that should tell you something. In the future as with any business venture there is a possibility that DEATHWATCH could become a chargeable service to cover expansion and expenses and that's a normalcy throughout life. I will never allow HYIP's or Autosurfs to advertise on DEATHWATCH because it would be unethical and a conflict of interests.

5. How do you analyze or study these programs before you declare that they are dying ?

--I cannot divulge any specifics as to my research seeing as it would endanger DEATHWATCH. I try to share what I can, but there is absolutely no way I could go in depth. Hopefully the members of DEATHWATCH can understand this.

6. You can never truly gauge a program better than being a member of that program. Agree ?

--Why not? You don't have to be a member of an HYIP to gauge historical data and statistics, trust me, being a member has absolutely nothing to do with it. I may not be a member now...but I had been for over a decade. There is no substitute for experience and experience is something I have a lot of. I've been around a long time.

7. Sometimes, programs may fail simply because you announced it on your list and the public perceive that it is true and stop spending into the program. The program which is healthy then dies naturally because of inadequate spends. Agree ?

--I'm glad you asked this question. This will never happen...why?...because the membership of DEATHWATCH will more than likely always pale in comparison to the sheer amount of members in the top HYIP, which at times can reach the high five figures. Not only that but there are people who will simply disregard the list and pay no attention to it, of course this would be a mistake, but everybody is free to make their own choices.
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Wednesday, February 4, 2009

WHO'S BEHIND YOUR HYIP???

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